mostlymuskies Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Sorry,#3 settingSent from my SM-G930V using Lake Erie United Mobile App
fishmaster Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, dukhnter8 said: Kingslammin, how deep were the dipsies and downriggers set? When I was out we had a 4, 5 and 7 color lead core out and never got a hit on them, I was changing colors of harnesses. The downrigger was right off the bottom as well as the one dipsy I had out. So I set the other DR to similar depth and got a hit. I was going to set up another dipsy but we had stuff going on in the afternoon and had to leave. Maybe try some deeper cores. We caught 9 out of our 11 fish yesterday on 7, 8 and 10 color lead with stickbaits. The 8 and 10 color catching the most and biggest fish, a 9 lbs two 8 lbs and a 7 lbs. The rest were smaller eaters. I have not caught a fish yet on my riggers this year. What lead are you guys running on your riggers? mine have been set at around 50ft back, which usually works for me.
King Slammin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Maybe try some deeper cores. We caught 9 out of our 11 fish yesterday on 7, 8 and 10 color lead with stickbaits. The 8 and 10 color catching the most and biggest fish, a 9 lbs two 8 lbs and a 7 lbs. The rest were smaller eaters. I have not caught a fish yet on my riggers this year. What lead are you guys running on your riggers? mine have been set at around 50ft back, which usually works for me.Short leads on riggers. Only 7' backSent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
fishmaster Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, King Slammin said: Short leads on riggers. Only 7' back Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App I would never have thought to try leads that short but I will now. Thanks.
King Slammin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 I would never have thought to try leads that short but I will now. Thanks.A trick I learned along time ago salmon fishing. When you see fish streaking up to your weights on fish finder then dropping back down, a lot of times a shorter lead will get the bait in front of them before they lose interest. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App 3
dukhnter8 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, fishmaster said: Maybe try some deeper cores. We caught 9 out of our 11 fish yesterday on 7, 8 and 10 color lead with stickbaits. The 8 and 10 color catching the most and biggest fish, a 9 lbs two 8 lbs and a 7 lbs. The rest were smaller eaters. I have not caught a fish yet on my riggers this year. What lead are you guys running on your riggers? mine have been set at around 50ft back, which usually works for me. Yeah I was starting to switch things over to deeper rigs, but we were in the pack when we had fish hit so I was trying to keep everything from tangling. My friend and wife were mostly driving while I was rigging the rods and such. I should have thrown some extra weight on the leadcore as I have the tadpoles in the boat. Also we had to be back by a certain time so only had til 1030-1100 am to fish. I get settled in at times and don't make changes or think about switching things but get lazy and don't. King, what type of downrigger weights are you using? I run 30-40 ft lead off my riggers as everyone said walleye are ball shy, but go shorter for salmon. Guess I'll have to try shorter leads.
mostlymuskies Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 I will sometimes run out 10 ft lead,add 2 Ounce Gibbs Weight and 10 ft more leads then attach to downrigger and drop down 10 ft off bottom and harness will run a couple feet off bottom.Sent from my SM-G930V using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
King Slammin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 King, what type of downrigger weights are you using? I run 30-40 ft lead off my riggers as everyone said walleye are ball shy, but go shorter for salmon. Guess I'll have to try shorter leads.I use homemade 10# fish shaped weights painted black when fishing for eyes. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
Ten Percent Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 Another trick of trade we used to do almost 30 years ago was to run flutter spoons on riggers w/say 30 to 50 ft leads..watch your graph..watch when you see hooks (ensure cannonball is below the fish), then pop the lure from the ball, hold rod, let spoon flutter up thru water column and at least half of the time that fish would nail your spoon..kinda fun holding the rod, feeling em grab it and set it...I know this still works as I caught 3 eyes last saturday outta Dunkirk doing this..give it a try..they don't see your cannonball but see that spoon trying to get up and away from them..btw it also works w plugs off riggers..it's also a little more interactiveSent from my SM-G900V using Lake Erie United Mobile App 2
jimski2 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 We fished Evangola to west of Silver Ceek. Four nice walleye. NE winds caused cold water upwelling. Surface temperature dropped four degrees. No fish on the bottom.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
mostlymuskies Posted July 5, 2017 Report Posted July 5, 2017 jimski2,I hardly ever go out when there is Northeast winds.If I do I move out to 90 ft +,seems the eyes move out to deeper water and suspend under those upwelling conditions.Sent from my SM-G930V using Lake Erie United Mobile App
ischua Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Fished Barcelona today first time on erie in 15 years. 7:30 to 12:30. Caught 6 eyes and lost 1 at the boat.3 on dipsys 150 ft back ..2 on fishseeker 110 ft back and 1 on 5 oz snap weight 120 ft back...All on harnesses- black and purple and watermellon.. 65 fow and went west....Thanks for the help making our trip succesful. Edited July 6, 2017 by ischua 1
lineman49 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 caught 6 eyes today between SP & the catt. lost one at the boat & 2 were throw back dinks. 60 -70 fow. 1
Pequod1 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 There are some really good ideas here about rigging lines for eyes. I would never had thought to run the leads so close to the balls but I will try now. I usually run reef runners off the riggers that should dive a little lower and a 50' lead. The popping the down rigger trick is something I learned a long time ago when chartering in Ontario. It worked for a nice eye the other day for us. 1
Seabee75 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Yes, I agree. Can't wait to try some more of these tips. I love to pop the line off the rigger and it is successful. Has anyone experimented with keeping the weight down and sliding another release down the line? Cranking up that canon ball gets old. Fish On!!
mostlymuskies Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Yes I have done just that ,I use metal shower curtain clips,rubber band lead to clip ,hook on a 3 ounce sinker using snap above the shower clip to downrigger cable and send it down!Sent from my SM-G930V using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
bud Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 larry r u on a harness bite now tried the vegggy today with no luck by purina towr marked lots of fish no takers had to take wife for lunch in Dunkirk flys were relentless
King Slammin Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 We did 9 eyes today. Much tougher bite. Only 5 keepers. Lost about 5 including a really nice one. A lot of short hits too. It was beautiful out and got a few for my buddy's freezer. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
yellowpike Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Same area ChrisSent from my VS986 using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
King Slammin Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 EastSent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
MyTurn Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Fished 55 to 60 fow out of sbh today. Tons and tons of bait. 5 fish all 22 to 24 inch very chunky fish. 5 , 7 color and 2 color rigger. 1
Seamaster Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 we ended up with 10 yesterday out of small boat Harbor 50 feet of water heading back out tomorrow morningSent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
mostlymuskies Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 King Slammin,I always run stinger hooks on harnesses this time of the season,lots of short hits!Sent from my SM-G930V using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
dukhnter8 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 I was out of sturgeon yesterday, got one 18". Was pretty slow for me, tried numerous changes but no fish. I was alone so only able to run 3 rods, marked a ton of bait and fish but couldn't get them to hit. temp was 66.7-69 at probe. Went to the fence on the troll, marked most in the 54 ft depth. DEC guy checking fish said it was slow for most only two other boats had fish, one with one fish and another bottom bouncing had 8. Seems like I just need to get one system down and stick with it as it seems like there is almost too much info on what is working (not a complaint). Guys are catching fish using all kinds of different set ups, probably specializing in certain ones. 1
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