Wire dypsy diver question...

[Fyshon]

Hey everybody, I'm looking to set up a wire dypsy rod to use for Walleye and Kings, I ordered some 19 strand torpedo wire and a Penn warfare reel. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice or do's and don'ts that might save me some embarrassing and costly mistakes... Thanks in advance

 

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[stoneam2006]

Personally I didn't think it was much different than braid other than depth it goes...make sure your connections are good. And make sure you spool enough on the reel for them screaming kings

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[Fyshon]

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[J. Sparrow]

Thought I would try the Warfare last year for a lead-core walleye reel....... in less than 1 month, the clicker failed. Hope you have better luck. I used to be a Penn reel fan, and fished 716's for years, and I was hoping to get back to some of their products. 

[Fyshon]

Thought I would try the Warfare last year for a lead-core walleye reel....... in less than 1 month, the clicker failed. Hope you have better luck. I used to be a Penn reel fan, and fished 716's for years, and I was hoping to get back to some of their products. 

I'll let you know how it works, as soon as I get up and running... Just waiting for things to be delivered... nobody has anything in stock.. I wanted to use big jon otter releases to add a 2nd lure up from my dipsey on my flouro leader...any thoughts if possible and what would be the best way ?

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[fishmaster]

You are wanting to run 2 different lures on your dipsy leader?

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[J. Sparrow]

1 hour ago, Fyshon said:

I wanted to use big jon otter releases to add a 2nd lure up from my dipsey on my flouro leader...

If you're wanting to add a leader/lure on your line between the diver and the rod tip,  I don't think it's a good idea. 

[Fyshon]

1 hour ago, fishmaster said:

You are wanting to run 2 different lures on your dipsy leader?

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No, I run a 50 ft flouro carbon leader off of a wire dypsy rod, I'm thinking of running a 2nd lure  above the dipsey

[Fyshon]

52 minutes ago, J. Sparrow said:

If you're wanting to add a leader/lure on your line between the diver and the rod tip,  I don't think it's a good idea. 

Are you concerned with tangles ?

[stoneam2006]

No, I run a 50 ft flouro carbon leader off of a wire dypsy rod, I'm thinking of running a 2nd lure  above the dipsey

Your going to run a 50 foot leader off your dipsy?

Slide diver?

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[Fyshon]

I run a 50ft flouro leader between the end of my wire and the dipsy ( to stop kinks when storing and transporting ) I wanted to see if I could run an additional lure on that flouro... So starting at the reel it would be wire, flouro, possible 2nd lure on that flouro,  dypsy, then the leader off the dypsy...

[stoneam2006]

I run a 50ft flouro leader between the end of my wire and the dipsy ( to stop kinks when storing and transporting ) I wanted to see if I could run an additional lure on that flouro... So starting at the reel it would be wire, flouro, possible 2nd lure on that flouro,  dypsy, then the leader off the dypsy...

And you can still spring the dipsy?
I feel like this kind of defeats the purpose of the wire don't it? You lose 50' of wire?

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[stoneam2006]

And I would be worried about tangles or potentially having the fish wrap the dipsy around itself

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[Fyshon]

2 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

And you can still spring the dipsy?
I feel like this kind of defeats the purpose of the wire don't it? You lose 50' of wire?

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This is what I'm wondering about... My brain is tired.. looking for advice 😅

[Fyshon]

5 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

And I would be worried about tangles or potentially having the fish wrap the dipsy around itself

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That's what I'm thinking too, do you think I'll be able to pop the dipsy with a fluoro leader? that's why I stopped fishing with dipsy's they were too hard to bring in so I'm switching to wire..

[fishmaster]

I understand the concept of the floro to stop the kinks but I would change the floro to braid. Make sure you use 65lb braid though becuase anything thinner and the knot wont hold, dont ask how I know. The idea of the second lure is a bad idea and would only lead to tangles or other problems.

After losing a dipsey set up because I used thinner braid I got rid of it all and went straight wire to a swivel. I then put on twili tips and reel the swivel to the end of the rods to prevent kinks and pigtails.



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[stoneam2006]

Personally I would go wire to dipsy no extra lure...

If you really want the leader I'm with above...braid is the anwser there.

Mono or flouro I don't think you will pop dipsy.

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[Fyshon]

21 minutes ago, fishmaster said:

I understand the concept of the floro to stop the kinks but I would change the floro to braid. Make sure you use 65lb braid though becuase anything thinner and the knot wont hold, dont ask how I know. The idea of the second lure is a bad idea and would only lead to tangles or other problems.

After losing a dipsey set up because I used thinner braid I got rid of it all and went straight wire to a swivel. I then put on twili tips and reel the swivel to the end of the rods to prevent kinks and pigtails.



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I'm overthinking this... I'm just going to run straight wire right to the dipsy... Thank you 👍👍

[Fyshon]

18 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said:

Personally I would go wire to dipsy no extra lure...

If you really want the leader I'm with above...braid is the anwser there.

Mono or flouro I don't think you will pop dipsy.

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Yep, you guys obviously have more experience than me, I'm going to follow your advice and just run straight wire... Thanks for the help..👍👍

[Fyshon]

I just ordered twilli tips, I'm going old school... Thanks everyone !!

[stoneam2006]

Yep, you guys obviously have more experience than me, I'm going to follow your advice and just run straight wire... Thanks for the help..

Probably not by much but I've made some bad decisions with gear and got some good advice from places like this!

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[mr 580]

Put about 40 yards of mono on your reel then attach your wire.  Put it on under tension and for a knot the “fish doctor” from Oswego has a simple overhand knot for wire on his website.  The wire being thinner will run your dipsey deeper than braid dipseys.  Forget trying to run a lure ahead of a dipsey.  Wire has benefits but you have to be careful handling as kinks lead to wire breaking.

[Thumbburn]

After you get your wire on the reel.... before your first deployment attach the non tripped dipsy and let out all the wire and reel your wire in under good tension so it’s on the reel nice and tight...


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[Fyshon]

40 minutes ago, Thumbburn said:

After you get your wire on the reel.... before your first deployment attach the non tripped dipsy and let out all the wire and reel your wire in under good tension so it’s on the reel nice and tight...


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Thanks... I appreciate your help

[Fyshon]

1 hour ago, mr 580 said:

Put about 40 yards of mono on your reel then attach your wire.  Put it on under tension and for a knot the “fish doctor” from Oswego has a simple overhand knot for wire on his website.  The wire being thinner will run your dipsey deeper than braid dipseys.  Forget trying to run a lure ahead of a dipsey.  Wire has benefits but you have to be careful handling as kinks lead to wire breaking.

You got it 👍 I'm grateful for all the help..