wojo Posted April 23, 2019 Report Posted April 23, 2019 FishermenOur fishing ground are in jeopardy . They are planning to construct 50 turbines 5 miles out from Sturgeon Point. A meeting ion This Thursday. @ 1030 am if anyone can make it please attend (Town of Evans). Governor Coumo was suppose to be there. , but canceled out. He will have his poop boys there
Hopkinz Posted April 24, 2019 Report Posted April 24, 2019 7 hours ago, wojo said: They are planning to construct 50 turbines 5 miles out from Sturgeon Point. He will have his poop boys there. Who is they? What is a poop boy? Hop
Headshaker Posted April 24, 2019 Report Posted April 24, 2019 https://www.wgrz.com/mobile/article/news/local/could-new-wind-turbines-be-coming-to-lake-erie/71-1611a493-1958-485b-a374-f4cd5e17ef43Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
Headshaker Posted April 24, 2019 Report Posted April 24, 2019 We must stand our ground on this issue, enough is enough!Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
jimski2 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Posted April 26, 2019 There are plenty of hilltops around here where theLand owners welcome the income from the wind mills. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
Headshaker Posted April 26, 2019 Report Posted April 26, 2019 Exactly, there is absolutely no need for these to be in the lake, this is not the ocean. If NYS wants to supplement its energy consumption from wind power on the water, they should place them offshore in the ocean off of long island and let the folks in the Hamptons stare at them! Good place for them, the scandinavian countries have had ocean placed windmills for years, let that be an example and place them off of the East Coast, not in our fishery or our drinking water. Just like the powerplant on the river, we do not see any benefit to that nonsense and this is the same resource grab, but they (albany and dwnstate) don’t have to deal with looking at it, or its impact on our community, in the case of the dam we have the ice boom that impacts us every year so the water intakes are clear of ice, all in the name of energy production for downstate. This will turn into the same nightmares, we will bare all of the cosequence while Albany and downstate benefit politically and fiscally. It is unaccepatable and every single boater, beach goer, fisherman and resident that enjoys looking at our lake and enjoying everything it offers in WNY needs to write their politicians or call them and say enough is enough and NO we do not want these in our water, period!!Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United 3
Locoman Posted April 26, 2019 Report Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Headshaker said: Exactly, there is absolutely no need for these to be in the lake, this is not the ocean. If NYS wants to supplement its energy consumption from wind power on the water, they should place them offshore in the ocean off of long island and let the folks in the Hamptons stare at them! Good place for them, the scandinavian countries have had ocean placed windmills for years, let that be an example and place them off of the East Coast, not in our fishery or our drinking water. Just like the powerplant on the river, we do not see any benefit to that nonsense and this is the same resource grab, but they (albany and dwnstate) don’t have to deal with looking at it, or its impact on our community, in the case of the dam we have the ice boom that impacts us every year so the water intakes are clear of ice, all in the name of energy production for downstate. This will turn into the same nightmares, we will bare all of the cosequence while Albany and downstate benefit politically and fiscally. It is unaccepatable and every single boater, beach goer, fisherman and resident that enjoys looking at our lake and enjoying everything it offers in WNY needs to write their politicians or call them and say enough is enough and NO we do not want these in our water, period!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Well said. I totally agree. 1
jimski2 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Posted April 27, 2019 Not only the landowners benefit but the Town taxpayers have better local services from the wind mill taxes. I asked a resident about the windmills nearby. He said “ I don’t smell them, see them or hear them. “ My taxes have gone down so what is the problem.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
Headshaker Posted April 27, 2019 Report Posted April 27, 2019 yup perfect ...put em on landSent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
Pequod1 Posted April 28, 2019 Report Posted April 28, 2019 Knowing this governor and this legislature I am afraid it will happen eventually. They want them and there is nothing the minority in both houses can do. What I fear the most is if they do go in will there be an exclusion zone around them. Could you imagine entire areas of the lake where you can't troll for Walleye’s. What kind of legacy is that to leave behind for our children and grandchildren. 1
Looney Tunes Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 Ask the Thruway Authority as they sue maker of wind turbines that don't work. Four years after spending $5 million to install wind turbines at four highway exits, the New York State Thruway Authority is now suing the company, contractor and consultants who installed them because the machines haven't worked since last year. As for reducing taxes it is not true. The state gives large installment subsidizes for all these projects with our tax money. Let's take a look at Lackawanna. How many of those wind mills are working and the ones that are working, for how long? They create a large wing thump and they kill 140,000 to 328,000 birds a year. The electricity they produce doesn't pay for themselves. 1
Headshaker Posted May 4, 2019 Report Posted May 4, 2019 Exactly, we need to get everyone on board for this fight!!Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United 1
Headshaker Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 https://www.change.org/p/ny-governor-andrew-cuomo-stop-your-plan-to-put-wind-turbines-in-lake-erieThis petition has been started by Jim Hanley, we need as many people on this as we can, please sign it and pass along to as many people as you can, fisherman, boaters, beach goers, everyone in WNY.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
Looney Tunes Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 Keep this petition going. "WE PAY" for these windmills. If this gets passd. How much will these windmills cost, how much will they pay back, how much power will they draw from the grid, there are many questions that will never get answered. We do not need this. The windmill manufactures are coming up with this plan to add to their bottom line.
Headshaker Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 Keep this petition going. "WE PAY" for these windmills. If this gets passd. How much will these windmills cost, how much will they pay back, how much power will they draw from the grid, there are many questions that will never get answered. We do not need this. The windmill manufactures are coming up with this plan to add to their bottom line. Any other organizations in WNY that we can get involved with this fight please pass along the information and this link to them as well such as boating associations, outdoor clubs, travel and tourism people and community associations. Make sure that each village and town stands up for our lake rights and opposes this incursion on our waters!Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
jimski2 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Posted July 3, 2019 Wind mills on the lake bottoms are very expensive to install and maintain. There are lots of landowners willing to install windmills that help pay the taxes they and their neighbors are assessed with. Installing them in our waters will provide nothing for our land owners but the money will flow direct to the political parasites controlling Albany and New York City. How stupid do they think we are?Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App 2
Locoman Posted July 3, 2019 Report Posted July 3, 2019 Liberal Demoncrats think anyone that does not agree with their agenda is stupider than dirt. 1
jimski2 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Posted July 3, 2019 Do not call me a liberal Democrat. I am an alleged Desecrat and I voted for Trump. I now like him less, a lot less . If he does not resign, the Republican Party will be destroyed like Hoover did them.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
Headshaker Posted July 3, 2019 Report Posted July 3, 2019 Do not call me a liberal Democrat. I am an alleged Desecrat and I voted for Trump. I now like him less, a lot less . If he does not resign, the Republican Party will be destroyed like Hoover did them.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile AppNobody cares about democrats or republicans we will all suffer together if industrial wind turbines get into the lake! Put the politics aside and unite as Western New Yorkers and stand up for your lake, your fishery and future generations!Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United 1
weave Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 Wind mills on the lake bottoms are very expensive to install and maintain. There are lots of landowners willing to install windmills that help pay the taxes they and their neighbors are assessed with. Installing them in our waters will provide nothing for our land owners but the money will flow direct to the political parasites controlling Albany and New York City. How stupid do they think we are?Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile AppWind turbines face fierce opposition on land as well. The landowners may be willing to accept them, but their neighbors put up a huge fight. It might be easier for the wind turbine companies to fight the opposition to water based turbines than land based turbines. I can’t think of a single land based wind turbine project that didn’t have to deal with protesting neighbors.Serious question.... have the Lackawanna wind turbines had a noticeable environmental effect or effect on fishing? I don’t fish that area and have no idea.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United
sherman brown Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 its going to happen. it may not be a done deal but i'll venture to say it will be soon.
mostlymuskies Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 The Lackawana wind turbines are on shore not on the water.Wind Turbines on Lake Erie would have adverse effects on spawning grounds,lake currents, areas off limits to fish and many possibilities of contamination of waters!Wind turbines face fierce opposition on land as well. The landowners may be willing to accept them, but their neighbors put up a huge fight. It might be easier for the wind turbine companies to fight the opposition to water based turbines than land based turbines. I can’t think of a single land based wind turbine project that didn’t have to deal with protesting neighbors.Serious question.... have the Lackawanna wind turbines had a noticeable environmental effect or effect on fishing? I don’t fish that area and have no idea.Sent from my iPhone using Lake Erie UnitedSent from my SM-G960U using Lake Erie United Mobile App 1
Alumacraft205 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 I'm surprised no one has brought up the amount of oil that they leak. Have never seen this personally but have read how the gearboxes start to leak and it is cheaper to top off oil than to repair gearboxes. I also have talked to an electrical engineer who made the same claim. He was involved with the wind turbines in Texas and Oklahoma and bottom line said be careful what you wish for. A company has installed them in arkwight already and Cherry Creek where I live is next. The biggest reason they are here is the lower income landowners who think a couple Grand a year is life changing. You will never see them in the Catskills or the Adirondacks where the wealthy playThe Lackawana wind turbines are on shore not on the water.Wind Turbines on Lake Erie would have adverse effects on spawning grounds,lake currents, areas off limits to fish and many possibilities of contamination of waters!Sent from my SM-G960U using Lake Erie United Mobile AppSent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Lake Erie United Mobile App
Ryeud Posted July 6, 2019 Report Posted July 6, 2019 Apparently you haven’t been to the AdirondacksSent from my iPhone using Lake Erie United Mobile App
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