I usually go out from Dunkirk to the breaks...112 -113 ft. Right on the bottom, I don't even use my fishawk. I use hammerhead cowbells and gambler rigs, I'm going to try deathtraps this year. Put a cheater on your riggers, you might pick up a steelie or an eye...good luck !! Sent from my SM-N950U using Lake Erie United Mobile App