A dozen trips means you're a rookie. Learn how to fish the lake and you will catch fish. Erie is a top notch walleye, perch, bass, sheepshead etc.etc.etc. lake. Do you give up so easily on everything you do? I've been fishing Erie for over fifty years and learned alot on my own. As for this forum, there are many posts on here from knowledgeable fishermen giving detailed reports. Go back and read them and learn. Rant over!!! Not quite........you only joined the forum eleven hours ago....